Medievil 3

[seanthefunky]

Hey guys I'm new to this forum, but Medievil was a massive thing to me when I was growing up (I'll never forget the feeling I had the first time I played it on a demo disc, actual perfection haha)

Well anyways I was just wondering if someone could fill me in on where exactly we stand with a new Medi game. I haven't really researched much into it since there was that job posting by SCEE cambridge, and from what I remember, that was a fair while ago.

So yeah, anything new arrisen yet?


Thanks folks

[Dan's Friend]

Welcome to the forum, SeanTheFunky!

There is a possibility MediEvil 3 will be unveiled at E3, but it truly is a very low possibility. If it is not, then there are probably no plans for a third game. :/

[seanthefunky]

ahhh man that sucks I guess they have left it a bit too long anyway... shame they didn't make a direct sequel to MedII instead of releasing Resurection.

ahh well guess it will go down in history as an unfinished story, along with the Legacy of Kain series

[shallowheartache]

The future of legacy of kain and medievil is up to the fan base. Although i wonder who will write the story and dialog for the next legacy of kain since the previous writer amy hennig works for naughty dog developing uncharted games.

[sirdan101]

Just found this article on MediEvil 3, which i think signals hope towards a Medievil 3. www.destructoid.com/the-dtoid-community-s-e3-2014-predictions-sony-276131.phtml

This does signal hope for us MediEvil fans because its now being predicted so more often which is great. I know it is being predicted often but this does show a great hope for a Medievil 3. Oh and at the end of all stars battle royal, as we all know marc silk states "he knows this will not be his last adventure".

[Garden Variety Zombie]

Well people say about the 'Dan Ending' of All-Stars saying about a possible sequel, but you have to think they might have been talking about Medievil 2 right? I mean in terms of the basic story it makes no sense I guess seeing as each time Dan beats his nemesis (Zarok, Palethorn), he goes back to sleep each time. so it's not like All-Stars could have happened between Medievil 1 and 2 for example.
I mean unless it's one of those funny explanations like someone came up with for what point during Medievil that Dan went off to play golf in 'Everybodys Golf'

[Vivi]

The thing with the endings for all the characters in All-Stars is that they all could potentially point to another game in their respective series. Personally, though I wish it were true, I don't think that the endings are giving away plans of other entries as it was just how the story was designed to give reason for why they were there fighting, nothing more.

I do agree with you GVZ that it could be talking about MediEvil 2 since in All-Stars he is still in Gallowmere in his intro and outro to his story.

[sirdan101]

Yeah but still i think that if they put a ledgendary character(sir dan) in all stars battle royale with his updated look then why not turn that into a new game. But we all know about sony that they will just not except the idea of medievil 3.But i do agree with GVZ's point

[Vivi]

Well I do believe Sony are not totally against it, they are just concerned on sales as after all it is a business and bringing back something like MediEvil can be quite risky as it could sell really well or flop. They did it with Twisted Metal on the PS3 and it apparently flopped pretty badly in terms of expected sales though it was a reasonably good game for the series. Considering that old Danny boy showed up in All-Stars shows Sony have not forgotten him, they are just cautious and maybe they are just waiting till the right time to do it.

I have a feeling that it could be showing up sometime next year as it will be 10 years since the series last entry. Sony Cambridge have been hush hush as of recently but what we do know is that they are working on a PS4 title and the word is that it is a new entry into an award winning series though it could be another Killzone though according to an insider Killzone is being but on the shelf for the time being for reassessment.

[sirdan101]

Well i hope the unnamed title is medievil 3 but i think thats not very likely.

[Vivi]

We'll just have to wait and see, one thing is almost a guarantee is that it is going to be good whatever they decide to do

[sirdan101]

Yeah im sure it will vivi

[Garden Variety Zombie]

Jul 1, 2014 20:40:14 GMT Vivi said:

.....as it will be 10 years since the series last entry.

God damn has it really been that long? I've just started playing it through again and still managed to find a room I somehow missed before, and it had a life bottle in it so apparently I've never collected them all before

[Vivi]

Just bought another copy on Saturday, only cost me £2.50 in a local store. 10 years and I am still playing it how many games can I say that about, not many. I do find it hard to believe it's been almost 10 years as well, I still remember getting my first PSP for Xmas with just MediEvil Resurrection the year it came out and finishing it on the same day

[Garden Variety Zombie]

I should really get to doing a glitches and weird things etc. list for Resurrection
I have a few copies I want to sell so I should get those on eBay too and let other people have them

[sirdan101]

Just thought of something here guys. Like you say MediEvil is now at a point to where it can be either pushed a side forever. Or it could be taken in a completely different term. So thinking, this term could be a MediEvil 3 with a multiple control of various characters and not just dan. like you could have playable characters such as al zalam and kiya. This change could spark families or groups of people enjoying a game which once was one player compatible to where and which the family could enjoy.But yet again this could change the series feel, as you won't be controlling just Dan. Deep down I know MediEvil can be brought back. It can just end with Ressurection, lastly a medievil 2 remake could be possible, but I think the original Is fine on its own and doesn't need a remake. Time shouldn't be wasted on making remakes, it should be used on making a MediEvil 3. But yet we stand to where we don't know if another game will ever appear in the series again. But all we can do is wait .

[Vivi]

It's a nice idea and I will admit I've thought about it as well but when I think about the idea of multiple playable characters in a MediEvil game, I don't know if it could work at least not as a main entry, it is as you said it could change the series feel. The formula of the game works that much is certain, the hack & slash/platformer play style is one of those things that make MediEvil stand out and make it unique along with many other of the games aspects that make it stand out. Changing that formula may harm the series rather than benefit it, and I have a good feeling Sony knows that, especially after the reception to Resurrection's differences in the story to the original.

I mean you only have to look at Crash Bandicoot to see what happens to changing the game's play style, there is a reason that the new games did not do well and that is because they changed the formula that made the game great to begin with. All I'm saying is that if they decide to keep the play style of MediEvil (H&S/Plat) but add multiple playable characters, how would it work? Only one idea comes to mind is if somehow all of the Heroes in the Hall of Heroes were brought to life and you could play as all of them with each of them having certain qualities that make them unique.

For example, a little idea I've had recently:
Let's say the game is a couch 4-player experience. Player 1 could be Sir Dan who is your generic intermediate character, balanced if you will. Then other you could have Player 2 Canny Tim who is agile, evasive but weak and unable to take much damage before dying plus he is not very strong at close range but say Player 3 is Stanyer Iron Hewer, he is slow and therefore cannot dodge attacks as well as Tim but can take a lot of damage and deal a lot too at close range but is not good at ranged attacks. Player 2 can deal with enemies from a range while Player 3 deals with close by enemies and gives the combat some depth and strategy. Player 4 is Megwynne Stormbinder who can heal allies as well as deal decent damage from a distance but has very low health and defense. The multiple heroes also contribute to replay value so that you can have a different experience if you play with a different set of heroes.

Also say if you just want to play the game yourself and have no friends to play with (puts hand up) then there could be a mode where you can have COMs as your allies. You could even have an arena mode where you face waves of enemies as a Hero of your choice. As I said before as long as the original formula is intact and keep it as a platformer with hack and slash gameplay it could very well work, at least in my mind. Now obviously this is just an idea I had recently but I think it could work if thought through very carefully.

Hell the game could have just Sir Dan in the Single-Player campaign but have a hero as a companion to help in a level, and have a multiplayer mode with the Heroes seperate. The mutiplayer portion of the game could play similar to TF2 (Warning: now when I was thinking of this part I was drunk so I'm sorry if I make you want to vomit into a bag or hang yourself at the thought of possibility).

Now just follow me here for a second, now if you have not heard of TF2 (or Team Fortress 2 as it is otherwise known) then it is a class-based first person shooter. Now I know what your thinking what on earth has TF2, a FPS, got to do with MediEvil, well you may be surprised. TF2 is made up of 9 classes made up of three different types of classes, Attack, Defense and Support classes. Scout is an attack class, Heavy is a defense class and Medic is a support class.

Now Scout is a fast, agile class able to attack enemies with a reasonable powerful gun but has low health, sounds familiar to how I described how Canny Tim could play out. Heavy is slow and not able to dodge well, but is a powerful class with a lot of health. He is very dangerous at close range but weak against range attacks from say a sniper, sounds familiar to a certain hammer wielder that I described don't he. Now Medic is a healer if you could not guess already. He provides the team with health from his medi gun, but can deal a decent amount of damage if need be from his syringe gun. He is not the strongest of characters and is rather weak, similar to how I described Megwynne. Now the Hall of Heroes features 10 heroes if you include Dan, which I do, which is one more than TF2's total number of classes. Dan could just be for beginners for use as a tutorial on how to play the different modes of the multiplayer mode such as Capture the Chalice (CTF). Also if it is going to be like TF2 the only other thing I would have to add is that they have hats and cosmetics added to it

Now obviously the multiplayer would deter from MediEvil's roots but call me crazy, because I sure do, but I do like the idea of this or at least an expansion on this idea. Not that any of this matters at the end of the day since it's not like someone will see this from Cambridge and go "Huh, maybe this guy is onto something. Let's come up with some ideas to see if this could work". It seems very unlikely, especially since it is dumb but maybe that is just me over-criticizing my idea

I have only thought of some of it for about a week now so it's not all in detail but do let me know if this idea is any good and that I am some genius or this idea is completely batty and that I am insane .

Edit: Damn was not expecting to write this much, if you read all of this I am sorry and thank you

[sirdan101]

Don't worry vivi you should look at my first posts on the site. I wrote tons of paragraphs with hardly no punctuation. I guess I just rushed it so much. When I write too quickly I make mistakes. But anyways back to the point of MediEvil 3. I do agree that if Sony make a MediEvil game with multiplayer playable charachters. I do belive that a multiplayer MediEvil is possible. But it can ruin the series feel. you see there are so many possibilities for MediEvil 3. Like you could have another adventure with dan in Gallowmere, which then you could have zarok some how comeback to take over Gallowmere. But that could have complications because would zarok make the same mistake of waking dan up like he did before. But he could do you never know. You could also have another adventure with dan which envolves him fighting yet of another villain who threatens Gallowmere as you go back in time from MediEvil 2. There are so many possibilities but like we say hopefully the unarmed title is MediEvil 3. But it's very likely, but hopefully it is, because it would make all us Mega MediEvil fans so excited.

[sirdan101]

Just found this guys, just wrote in MediEvil in Google News and this came up. www.games.it/sony/playstation/ps-vita/news/medievil-playstation-vita.html
By the way this isn't in English I can't read it but it does hint something in the title. More hope for us fans, MORE HOPE!! Yay

EDIT: Just translated it translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.games.it/sony/playstation/ps-vita/news/medievil-playstation-vita.html&usg=ALkJrhicVYcf0J1DEKEObvQ6JQBot1OTug

This still signals hope to the fact that they are bringing MediEvil back one more time on the vita which is brilliant. It's getting there we just one day hope it says the Words "Sony have confirmed a MediEvil 3" which would be amazing. But I guess all we can do is wait.

[Dan's Friend]

Articles like this have popped up many times in the past, even in English. There's no source or anything given, so this seems very doubtful. But eh, I guess we'll see!

[sirdan101]

Well that's all we can do, thanks for putting my posts into one DF. I should of put it all in one post. But like all we MediEvil fans can do is wait.

[Garden Variety Zombie]

I still remember that one rumour to do with Playstation Magazine about there being a Medievil 3, various websites quoted the article and stuff and even what issue number it was, having checked the issue personally (which apparently, NONE of the websites bothered to do) I found nothing in the magazine whatsoever about Medievil 3 or even the franchise overall.

Sometimes a well reported lie spreads, this happens a LOT with 'insider' wrestling news where someone will make a story up out of nowhere and quote a source (which doesn't exist) then other websites report it like they have seen the source too and run with it.

[sirdan101]

Yeah I know the Internet isn't always reliable because half the stuff like you said is made up. But if this Is true about medievil launching on Ps vita it will be a great push for MediEvil and maybe a possible future for A MediEvil 3.

[Dan's Friend]

Apparently Guerrilla Cambridge's working on a PS4 game.

www.psu.com/a023995/Guerrilla-Cambridge-staffing-up-for-high-profile-PS4-game

Don't suppose it's MediEvil, probably another Killzone. Almost no one (or no one) from the original team works there, anyway.

[Vivi]

I hope it is MediEvil but it is more likely Killzone as I bet most people working there now would prefer to do Killzone as they have done it before, and as you said the team as it is does not have any of it's former members working there (or at least not many). After their success with KZ Merc you would think that Sony would want them to do it, especially as Guerrilla Games are not working on the IP.

[sirdan101]

Well you never know do you maybe guerrilla may want to take MediEvil under. But like you say it's highly unlikely it's MediEvil which is an uter shame. It would be good to see another kill zone game i guess. But we all know what we want. Hint "medievil"

[Garden Variety Zombie]

We're more likely to see a sequel to Primal at this point than Medievil 3, and that's saying something.

[sirdan101]

Yes your right actually there could be a primal 2 which would be great to see. I love primal 1 and do wish the same as a MediEvil 3 for a primal 2 to be made. Although I've never played primal, for some reason I don't know why. But I have seen footage of the game and its brilliant. But all we can do is wait.

[Winston1]

I highly doubt that. The potential continuation of MediEvil might not be looking well right now, but the franchise still has a far more likelihood of returning than Primal and Ghosthunter do. At least with MediEvil, all three games were commercially successful for their time. The only reason it didn't continue was because Sony's new management didn't have faith in it becoming a long running franchise. Primal, meanwhile, had a huge budget for its time and lots of pre-release hype, only for it to then be released and end up being nowhere near as successful as Sony had anticipated. Obviously, it still has enough of a cult following to make Sony re-release it on the PSN, but that's probably the most it will ever get. Ghosthunter probably doesn't even have a chance at that, unfortunately. MediEvil has at least been partially revived in PlayStation AllStars. Not saying that means Sony will make a sequel, but it shows that they still acknowledge the series, or at least more so than they do for Primal and Ghosthunter.

[Garden Variety Zombie]

I'd never even heard of Primal or Ghosthunter until someone mentioned them on here a few years back probably, was the promotion for them really bad or something? Medievil had adverts on TV for christ sake
I mean I have them both now but I bought them both for next to nothing.